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"CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever" (carsoffortlangley) 08/18/2020 at 12:21 • Filed to: None

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A 2002 Hilux Surf with 86K miles in great shape and with nice rims and tires. $13K Canadian which means, I could, but....

Out of curiosity for those in the know, is this going to take standard 4runner parts of the same generation for the most part?

Yes please

bob and john > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/18/2020 at 12:29

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i’m pretty sure it IS a 4runner. just under a different name

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > bob and john 08/18/2020 at 12:30

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I thought so too. Honestly $12K for a 4runner with 140,000km....that’s a great deal.

10/10 would daily, even though I risk death by oncoming traffic

dogisbadob > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/18/2020 at 12:32

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It probably will

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/18/2020 at 12:34

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Quick search seems to show that it is a 4Runner, I was confused at first because that definitely doesn’t look like a Hilux. A proper Hilux is a pickup:

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/18/2020 at 12:35

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Answer is yes. My brother had one of these Surfs when he was based in a remote place in Asia. He would have me buy 4Runner parts for it over here and take them over when we met up for the holidays. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 08/18/2020 at 12:35

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It’s sold as a Hilux Surf in Japanland. While it seems like just a re-badge job, you never know about parts transfer-ability between JDM and USDM vehicles.  

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 08/18/2020 at 12:38

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desire for one increasing....

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/18/2020 at 12:43

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Death of your passenger anyway.

B uy it, do a little badge engineering, then triple the price for resale.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: 08/18/2020 at 12:50

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I'm more worried about going for a left hand turn and being t boned by an oncoming.  But, my drive is basically straight down back Highway, so it is doable

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/18/2020 at 12:53

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Guess you’ll just need to lift it so you’re above the danger zone. Maybe a tubular exoskeleton as well... For safety.

Reversing through drive thru’s will be fun too.

Textured Soy Protein > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/18/2020 at 12:57

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Having owned a 4Runner of this generation for 1 weekend (I bought a used ’99 Limited with the rear e-locker from a large Toyota dealer, which turned out to have a bad transmission and they thankfully took it back) you have to really want one of these as the actual attributes of it as a vehicle are definitely old school. It’s very narrow and not very roomy inside and slow as balls. I bought it anyway and would have kept it were it not for the bad transmission but still. FYI. 

gmctavish needs more space > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/18/2020 at 12:59

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If it’s a diesel, anything for the engine you’ll be overnighting from Japan. Everything else should be interchangeable with NA 4Runner parts, unless it has JDM options that don’t translate to NA parts 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > gmctavish needs more space 08/18/2020 at 13:01

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4 cyl petrol!

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: 08/18/2020 at 13:02

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I personally don’ t do drive thrus (before the pandemic, I had only ever driven through one once) so it shouldn’t be an issue if I get it

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Textured Soy Protein 08/18/2020 at 13:02

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slow and narrow is all good with me!  

gmctavish needs more space > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/18/2020 at 13:03

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Oh huh . In that case, seems like they’re asking 3.0 turbo diesel money for the base engine. Or maybe their prices have gone up

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/18/2020 at 13:03

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In that case just remember: Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > gmctavish needs more space 08/18/2020 at 13:05

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It seems like it is in really good shape, but it could be that it is a little overpriced.

With LHD 4runners being so crazy, it is really tempting.  Likely wont happen, but one can dream

Textured Soy Protein > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/18/2020 at 14:04

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Not sure what the corresponding Hilux Surf trims were, but on the 4Runner the most desirable version was the ’99-’00 Limited which had a full-time 4wd transfer case and available rear locking diff.

The full-time 4wd was an electronic, auto 4wd, slip-n-grip type setup, not a center differential, but still full-time for on-road, rough weather driving. In ’01 all the trims got the auto 4wd but no more e-locker. Instead they all gained traction control . So the ’99-’00 Limited was the only way to get the auto 4wd + e-locker.

Since this one you found is an ’02 it probably has the auto 4wd & traction control. I believe the auto 4wd was more widespread on the JDM trims earlier than the North America versions but I don’t know the specifics.

(There is much consternation among off-roady 3rd gen 4Runner owners as to whether the traction control is good or bad. I believe it disables itself when you lock the transfer case.)

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/19/2020 at 12:16

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He also absolutely loved the thing, do it!